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Born to be Fat May 10, 2007

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Genes Take Charge, and Diets Fall by the Wayside – New York Times
krispy-kreme-bacon-cheddar-cheeseburgers There is a reason that fat people cannot stay thin after they diet and that thin people cannot stay fat when they force themselves to gain weight. The body’s metabolism speeds up or slows down to keep weight within a narrow range. Gain weight and the metabolism can as much as double; lose weight and it can slow to half its original speed.

80 percent of the offspring of two obese parents become obese, as compared with no more than 14 percent of the offspring of two parents of normal weight. 70 percent of the variation in peoples’ weights may be accounted for by inheritance, a figure that means that weight is more strongly inherited than nearly any other condition, including mental illness, breast cancer or heart disease. ibeatanorexia

The feeling of hunger is intense and, if not as potent as the drive to breathe, is probably no less powerful than the drive to drink when one is thirsty. This is the feeling the obese must resist after they have lost a significant amount of weight

t was 1959. Jules Hirsch, a research physician at Rockefeller University, had gotten curious about weight loss in the obese. He was about to start a simple experiment that would change forever the way scientists think about fat.

Obese people, he knew, had huge fat cells, stuffed with glistening yellow fat. What happened to those cells when people lost weight, he wondered. Did they shrink or did they go away? He decided to find out.

It seemed straightforward. Dr. Hirsch found eight people who had been fat since childhood or adolescence and who agreed to live at the Rockefeller University Hospital for eight months while scientists would control their diets, make them lose weight and then examine their fat cells.

The study was rigorous and demanding. It began with an agonizing four weeks of a maintenance diet that assessed the subjects’ metabolism and caloric needs. Then the diet began. The only food permitted was a liquid formula providing 600 calories a day, a regimen that guaranteed they would lose weight. Finally, the subjects spent another four weeks on a diet that maintained them at their new weights, 100 pounds lower than their initial weights, on average.

Dr. Hirsch answered his original question — the subjects’ fat cells had shrunk and were now normal in size. And everyone, including Dr. Hirsch, assumed that the subjects would leave the hospital permanently thinner.

That did not happen. Instead, Dr. Hirsch says, “they all regained.” He was horrified. The study subjects certainly wanted to be thin, so what went wrong? Maybe, he thought, they had some deep-seated psychological need to be fat.

rearview.jpgSo Dr. Hirsch and his colleagues, including Dr. Rudolph L. Leibel, who is now at Columbia University, repeated the experiment and repeated it again. Every time the result was the same. The weight, so painstakingly lost, came right back. But since this was a research study, the investigators were also measuring metabolic changes, psychiatric conditions, body temperature and pulse. And that led them to a surprising conclusion: fat people who lost large amounts of weight might look like someone who was never fat, but they were very different. In fact, by every metabolic measurement, they seemed like people who were starving.

Before the diet began, the fat subjects’ metabolism was normal — the number of calories burned per square meter of body surface was no different from that of people who had never been fat. But when they lost weight, they were burning as much as 24 percent fewer calories per square meter of their surface area than the calories consumed by those who were naturally thin.

The Rockefeller subjects also had a psychiatric syndrome, called semi-starvation neurosis, which had been noticed before in people of normal weight who had been starved. They dreamed of food, they fantasized about food or about breaking their diet. They were anxious and depressed; some had thoughts of suicide. They secreted food in their rooms. And they binged.

michelangelos-david-after-us-visitThe Rockefeller researchers explained their observations in one of their papers: “It is entirely possible that weight reduction, instead of resulting in a normal state for obese patients, results in an abnormal state resembling that of starved nonobese individuals.”

Eventually, more than 50 people lived at the hospital and lost weight, and every one had physical and psychological signs of starvation. There were a very few who did not get fat again, but they made staying thin their life’s work, becoming Weight Watchers lecturers, for example, and, always, counting calories and maintaining themselves in a permanent state of starvation.

“Did those who stayed thin simply have more willpower?” Dr. Hirsch asked. “In a funny way, they did.”

One way to interpret Dr. Hirsch and Dr. Leibel’s studies would be to propose that once a person got fat, the body would adjust, making it hopeless to lose weight and keep it off. The issue was important, because if getting fat was the problem, there might be a solution to the obesity epidemic: convince people that any weight gain was a step toward an irreversible condition that they most definitely did not want to have.

But another group of studies showed that that hypothesis, too, was wrong.

It began with studies that were the inspiration of Dr. Ethan Sims at the University of Vermont, who asked what would happen if thin people who had never had a weight problem deliberately got fat.

His subjects were prisoners at a nearby state prison who volunteered to gain weight. With great difficulty, they succeeded, increasing their weight by 20 percent to 25 percent. But it took them four to six months, eating as much as they could every day. Some consumed 10,000 calories a day, an amount so incredible that it would be hard to believe, were it not for the fact that there were attendants present at each meal who dutifully recorded everything the men ate.

Once the men were fat, their metabolisms increased by 50 percent. They needed more than 2,700 calories per square meter of their body surface to stay fat but needed just 1,800 calories per square meter to maintain their normal weight.

When the study ended, the prisoners had no trouble losing weight. Within months, they were back to normal and effortlessly stayed there.

The implications were clear. There is a reason that fat people cannot stay thin after they diet and that thin people cannot stay fat when they force themselves to gain weight. The body’s metabolism speeds up or slows down to keep weight within a narrow range. Gain weight and the metabolism can as much as double; lose weight and it can slow to half its original speed.

That, of course, was contrary to what every scientist had thought, and Dr. Sims knew it, as did Dr. Hirsch.

The message never really got out to the nation’s dieters, but a few research scientists were intrigued and asked the next question about body weight: Is body weight inherited, or is obesity more of an inadvertent, almost unconscious response to a society where food is cheap, abundant and tempting? An extra 100 calories a day will pile on 10 pounds in a year, public health messages often say. In five years, that is 50 pounds.

happy_valentines_day.jpgThe assumption was that environment determined weight, but Dr. Albert Stunkard of the University of Pennsylvania wondered if that was true and, if so, to what extent. It was the early 1980s, long before obesity became what one social scientist called a moral panic, but a time when those questions of nature versus nurture were very much on Dr. Stunkard’s mind.

He found the perfect tool for investigating the nature-nurture question — a Danish registry of adoptees developed to understand whether schizophrenia was inherited. It included meticulous medical records of every Danish adoption between 1927 and 1947, including the names of the adoptees’ biological parents, and the heights and weights of the adoptees, their biological parents and their adoptive parents.

Dr. Stunkard ended up with 540 adults whose average age was 40. They had been adopted when they were very young — 55 percent had been adopted in the first month of life and 90 percent were adopted in the first year of life. His conclusions, published in The New England Journal of Medicine in 1986, were unequivocal. The adoptees were as fat as their biological parents, and how fat they were had no relation to how fat their adoptive parents were.

The scientists summarized it in their paper: “The two major findings of this study were that there was a clear relation between the body-mass index of biologic parents and the weight class of adoptees, suggesting that genetic influences are important determinants of body fatness; and that there was no relation between the body-mass index of adoptive parents and the weight class of adoptees, suggesting that childhood family environment alone has little or no effect.”

In other words, being fat was an inherited condition.

Dr. Stunkard also pointed out the implications: “Current efforts to prevent obesity are directed toward all children (and their parents) almost indiscriminately. Yet if family environment alone has no role in obesity, efforts now directed toward persons with little genetic risk of the disorder could be refocused on the smaller number who are more vulnerable. Such persons can already be identified with some assurance: 80 percent of the offspring of two obese parents become obese, as compared with no more than 14 percent of the offspring of two parents of normal weight.”

A few years later, in 1990, Dr. Stunkard published another study in The New England Journal of Medicine, using another classic method of geneticists: investigating twins. This time, he used the Swedish Twin Registry, studying its 93 pairs of identical twins who were reared apart, 154 pairs of identical twins who were reared together, 218 pairs of fraternal twins who were reared apart, and 208 pairs of fraternal twins who were reared together.

The identical twins had nearly identical body mass indexes, whether they had been reared apart or together. There was more variation in the body mass indexes of the fraternal twins, who, like any siblings, share some, but not all, genes.

The researchers concluded that 70 percent of the variation in peoples’ weights may be accounted for by inheritance, a figure that means that weight is more strongly inherited than nearly any other condition, including mental illness, breast cancer or heart disease.

The results did not mean that people are completely helpless to control their weight, Dr. Stunkard said. But, he said, it did mean that those who tend to be fat will have to constantly battle their genetic inheritance if they want to reach and maintain a significantly lower weight.

The findings also provided evidence for a phenomenon that scientists like Dr. Hirsch and Dr. Leibel were certain was true — each person has a comfortable weight range to which the body gravitates. The range might span 10 or 20 pounds: someone might be able to weigh 120 to 140 pounds without too much effort. Going much above or much below the natural weight range is difficult, however; the body resists by increasing or decreasing the appetite and changing the metabolism to push the weight back to the range it seeks.

The message is so at odds with the popular conception of weight loss — the mantra that all a person has to do is eat less and exercise more — that Dr. Jeffrey Friedman, an obesity researcher at the Rockefeller University, tried to come up with an analogy that would convey what science has found about the powerful biological controls over body weight.

He published it in the journal Science in 2000 and still cites it:

“Those who doubt the power of basic drives, however, might note that although one can hold one’s breath, this conscious act is soon overcome by the compulsion to breathe,” Dr. Friedman wrote. “The feeling of hunger is intense and, if not as potent as the drive to breathe, is probably no less powerful than the drive to drink when one is thirsty. This is the feeling the obese must resist after they have lost a significant amount of weight.”

This is an excerpt from Gina Kolata’s new book, “Rethinking Thin: The New Science of Weight Loss — and the Myths and Realities of Dieting” (Farrar, Straus & Giroux).

Obesity Rates Continue To Climb

Comments»

1. Gordon - May 26, 2007

I always tell people to try something that always works, guaranteed. It’s called the “Stop eating so much” diet.

2. Stephanie - July 23, 2007

Gordon obviously did not read the article or if he did he didn’t comprehend……what a jerk!

3. abigail - July 27, 2007

this is the sickest pic of all time! these girls are fat. i think they need to take a total diet! these girls are like monsters, worse, they are like king kong! get a life people. oh and stephanie, people get fat. so deal with it. i think gordons right! its the peoples fault foe eating so much duh stupid.

4. lauren - July 27, 2007

this is abigail again. my couz lauren says im right . this is wat she says to stephanie, these girls need to take care of themselves and i think its there fault there fat! i feel bad but i mean you should not eat like that its bad.so steph just chill axe.

5. Veronica - August 1, 2007

First off Gordon is not right. Gordon & Abigail, have either of you ever suffered from obesity & I do not mean 20-30 pounds? All my life I suffered being one of the largest girls in my class, now granted I did not look as large as the women in the picture above, but I was 210 at 5’3. I ate the same foods & probably smaller portions than most of my friends, but I was much, much larger than any of them. I finally decided that I to wanted to be thin, thus I began the Atkins diet & once I accomplished getting down to 135, I used a 500 calorie diet to reach my healthy weight range, which was 120. The moment that I consumed more calories than usual I would gain weight. I struggled daily on what I ate & how my clothes fit. This article really ht home for me because the DR. used the same diet I created for myself. I am not 120 anymore, but I have a child & during my pregnancy I had exercise taken away from for personal reason & I shot from 139 to 248 because I had to eat three meals a day. I lost 100 pounds on my own after the baby. My point is that no matter how hard I try, the minute that I begin to consume regular meals & even attempt to eat like a regular person I become obese, so please if you do not suffer from obesity & have never had anyone go through it, do not assume that eating less with help. Starving is more like it & no one can starve them self forever. BTW, when I became pregnant I was working for a gym & did more exercise than most girls my age & still I struggle each and every day, I still do!

6. Gordon - August 2, 2007

veronica – i don’t believe you. it’s calories in vs. calories out. fat people eat more calories than they burn. period. don’t believe me? follow a fat person around all day and watch what they eat and what they do. count up the calories. it’s poor eating habits and lack of exercise. i believe that this is a generational thing that we learn as children. many fattys got learned bad eating habits from their parents.

7. Darlene - August 8, 2007

People always look at fat people like they are big, overeating slobs, Well, yes, some are. But many are not. I was a happy, naturally 123 lbs until, at age 24 I got pregnant with my son. I had a rough pregnancy and was ordered to bed rest from 3 months on. I gained a lot of weight which I tried hard to loose after my son’s birth, but something changed in my body – I would ride my bike, walk, swim reguarly and I couldn’t loose weight. I ate normal meals (many people said I ate like a bird) and I was never a binger. I do not like sweets much either. Over the years my weight kept going up. Now, at age 47, I weigh 325 lbs and have been eating 800 calories a day just to loose one or two pounds a month!!!! I have been walking everyday and doing water aerobics 3 times a week. Does anyone realize how little food 800 calories a day is?? I have been eating this way very strictly for the past 6 months and have barely lost 14 pounds. So those of you who have never been obese, keep your comments to yourselves because those of us with this type of life experience are NOT at the mercy of those of you who have never been obese.

8. kimmy - August 11, 2007

this is sooo funny reading all your comments about a little article. peolple are fat and peolpe are thin, thats the way life is. the amount of fat people is evened up by the amount of thin peolpe. i am by the way, is a thin, healthy, triathlete with what you could call a hot body!. the fat people today eat the fatty macdonalds food types. so i agree with you gordan. follow a fat person around for a day just to see what they consum. and get over it guys, its life and you can’t really do much about it… cheers

9. Katrina - August 14, 2007

you may have beaten anorexia but heart disease is right around the corner. Put all those heavy girls on a scale and you’ve got the Titanic.

10. ALENA - August 25, 2007

HA LOOK AT THIS

11. Sandy Hinman - August 26, 2007

I lover YOUR SEXY FAT WOMEN.i,M ONE AND LOVE IT.WSH YOU HAD
MORE OUT SEXY WOMEN TO LOOK AT. fROM fAT GRANDMA SANDY

12. Vik - August 26, 2007

I would be really interested in what the normal portion is that is being talked about in regards to the diets mentioned. Many people dont really how little food needs to be consumed each day, one serve of cheese is only two slices – or a peice the size of your thumb. A serve of meat is only 50g, and a serve or ceral is half a cup of pasta, a small potato or one slice of bread. And we only need 5-6 serves of cereal, 5 serves of fruit and veggies, 2 serves of dairy and 1 serve of meat each day to obtain our daily nutritional and calorie requirements. Thats without the added extras of chocolate biscuits, butter on toast or a ‘small’ muffin. Many people percieve themselves to eat very little but in fact are consuming huge amounts of calories. And many ‘thin’ people, may be percieved to eat ‘what ever they want’ and ‘how ever much they want’ but really in truth are more likely to overestimate the amount of food they eat, and are less likely to eat such large quantitys as thier fatter peers. Its all relative. I hate it when people tell me Im ‘lucky’ to be thin. I work damn hard. I exercise for an hour + every day, eat very small portions of healthy foods and only occasionally will have sweets or junkfood. So its not just large people who stuggle to keep their weight down.

13. Chris walker - August 28, 2007

It’s a combination of factors… I see many morbidly obese people eating at McDonalds or a huge steak dinner… every day.

I also watch some that eat very little and get fat… you can assume they are sneaking snacks in private… but not all of them are.

The thing is that some people CAN consume more calories because we were gifted with a faster metabolism. But just because that’s true doesn’t mean that we can ignore what we eat (we can’t… when I eat too much fast food I gain weight also… and go on diets… I am not obese but I can fluctuate from 150-201 pretty easy… that’s 33% that’s HUGE. (5’10” for scale)

In my case I know what I eat makes me fat… when I eat healthy I lose weight… when I eat fast food I gain weight…. there is no mystery there. Currently I am at 182 and striving for 170 but I am having a real hard time because I love soft drinks… non-diet ones. I can consume 2,000 calories in soft drinks alone per day if I do not watch myself. I KNOW why I gain weight.

But other people can eat a salad and get fat… Genetics, Chemical imbalance, organ misfunction… I dunno… something is wrong.

I think some people don’t count calories in condiments or drinks…. if you eat a baked potato instead of fries but you load it with butter and sour cream.. did you save fat and calories? NO… if you get a salad and you top it with bacon, cheese, and ranch dressing… did you do yourself a favor or ruin your diet? If you eat a turkey sandwich and wash it down with a 32 oz coke with no ice.. what do you think about the 310 empty calories you just drank? God forbid you refill it on the way out because refills are free. (my own problem)

I think at least here in the USA… most of us are fat because we eat too much… I would put money on the fact that if you measured what fat people were eating that 90% would be very high in fat and caloric intake… and 10% or less have a real medical condition. I think alot of fat people love to hide behind the genetic condition excuse… it takes the blame off them… very logical response… but admitting you have a problem is the first step… just like substance abuse people… you know… food is a substance too.

14. Krissy - August 29, 2007

i hate people who are jerks and miss the importance of educational material. im not going to bother commenting on the article, but then again i like educational stuff. its people in this world like Gordon and his companions that push people to do insane things, and thats a shame. it really is, i feel for everyone and im able to analytically talk about all sorts of subjects. im normal weight, either way. but that doesnt mean i can’t understand different point of views. and no, fat people DONT always eat the bad stuff. if you buy that horse crap, you’ve been miseducated and think your hot stuff, which in most cases, you aren’t, you’re just a jerk, get over it. appearence isn’t everything. what determines your ability to achieve great things is not your body, but your mind. and the way gordon’s going, i hope he ends up flipping fries, if he already isn’t. thats why the government sends us to school, so we aren’t miseducated.

15. Debbie - August 30, 2007

some of you people are such jerks. You dont know how these people
feel. And some of you are making them feel worst. CROW UP!!
What if your children are over weight someday, what then. You wouldnt like it if someone said nasty things about your own children.

16. molly - August 31, 2007

thay are like well fat wouldnt like to grow up looking like that

17. Karen - September 1, 2007

This is a picture of me when i was skinny, And skoal down in you will see a picture of Al.

18. david - September 2, 2007

i agree with this article tottally i am what u call a person with a very fast metabolism my normal weight eating normally is about 160 at 6 foot 1 i got into working out to gain weight and i went from 160 to 187 lbs in 6 months. I had to eat every 1 to 2 hours which worked out to about 8 meals a day and working out at night to gain that much weight and i recently stopped working out and went back to eating normal and in 1 month im back down to 170 lbs already it has everything to do with ur metabolism and genetics so i agree totally with this article.

19. jesus - September 2, 2007

u people are fat and need to stop eating before u explode

20. ness - September 3, 2007

i think alot of people, not all, are just making up massive excuses for their weight, because they can except the way they look their just trying to convince others to except them, which is not going to work because they are killing themselves, its unhealthy and it looks discusting, its not somthing we want to look at as being ok because its not and people, especially children, need to realise this. there’s nothing wrong with fruits and vegetables nobody! needs to have burgers and chips and all that junk we have a choice

21. ashley - September 4, 2007

LOOK HERE ” IM THIN AND PRETY ” YOU HAVE NO CLUE IN WHAT US OVER WEIGHT PEOPLE GO THROW I AM ONLY 16 AND I AM 190 POUNDS. YEA THAT SEEMS LIKE ALOT BUT THATS OKAY I AM PROBLEY A HICK OF ALOT PRETYER THEN YALL SICK LOOKING PEOPLE. AT LEAST I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF MEAT ON MY BONES.
THANXS

22. *jEaNz* - September 15, 2007

*lol* GAWD! You hateful, hateful people. Yeah, it’s easy to get all puffed up and snarl at the monitor rather than an actual person, isn’t it?
In the midst of all this madness I might as well say, “Screw it.”, and throw in my silly 2 cents too, huh?

I think some of these ppl fail to realize that above all this hissing n snarling was an article on actual scientific material. Someone’s already studied it. It’s already been done. But, yet…you contiue to argue over it like YOU are the one with the degree. Truly, it was not the article that intriqued me when I came upon this site….it was you people (Gordon, “Jesus”, Ness, Molly etc…)

Just to scroll down & watch you go on & on. Indeed, it really was a rather distrubing insight into the complex Human Mind.
They say, we learn a new thing everyday. Yes, well, my friends… I can certainly say I have learnt my fill as of this hour.

Maybe it’s not the fat people who have the REAL problem…(heehee)…maybe’s it’s….YOU!

Yes…fat ppl eat at Macdonalds…..but so do skinny ppl. Right? It really doesn’t matter WHAT size you are, if you eat there…you’re just BOUND to hack, choak anf fall over someday. MD’s is soooo bad for us. And there isn’t a one of us that doesn’t know that in our hearts.

Except maybe little kids…
;) My point is…
…just back up.
Take a deep breath there, Cowboy. You’re jumpin’ WAY ahead of yourself.
Don’t keep coming back here, shottin’ off silly and rather old-dated remarks about overweight ppl.
Cause all your doin’ is showin’ casual ppl, like me, that are just serfing the web…how ridiculas and….well…. weird somebody out there really is.

I’ll end this quite simply…
Dude, I’d much rather bump into a “Fat Person” on the street rather than you… ANYDAY.

Period.
I’m Outie.
;)

*jEaNz*

23. zoey howat - September 18, 2007

you need to stop eating fat boy

get a grip

:(:(:(

24. SEXY - September 18, 2007

LOOSE SOME WEIGHT GO TO GYMMMMMMMMMM

25. Askawey - October 2, 2007

i like fat people because I’m fat

Aska

26. Chris - October 12, 2007

I don’t understand why people delude themselves into thinking that their obesity is a “genetic problem” or some other such nonsense. While there may be some instances where genetics may be a factor, these are clearly rare and extreme cases. Seriously, look at people in counties such as Poland, France, Hungary and Denmark. These represent tall of the major European ethnic groups (Slavic, Latin, Hungaro/Estonian/Finnish and Germanic) — thus European-Americans are genetically identical to folks in these countries. Yet folks over here (I do live in Europe although I am an American) are not even close to being so fat. Such hugely obese people are highly rare here. If the matter was really genetic, then in stands to reason that folks who are identical genetically would have the same problems. It is plainly true that this is not the case. Thus the genetics excuse is obviously a cheap excuse to make people feel better — to feel “it’s not my fault, I can’t help it, the fault is in my genes not my behaviour”. Me, I was 85 pounds heavier before I moved to Europe 2 1/2 years ago. Now I’m at my ideal body weight. It’s easy to maintain it now, too. Main reason: folks don’t eat American style garbage here and folks do make excuses for being fat — everyone knows that the fattness is caused by eating crap and too much of it. You’ll never get thin if you keep making excuses!!!

27. peter - February 27, 2008

it’s very pain full too see how people like that leave they need better .
i hope it’s gonna work to give them a better live !
xxjaney

28. amkani - May 28, 2008

leave them alone. we all die in the end.

29. Ken S - June 9, 2008

What I find really interesting is how many people make the argument that heavy people’s weight is *all* about their eating McDonalds and not exercising; how then would they explain guys like my roommate who eats as much junk food as he wants, drinks a 2L of Pepsi every couple days, barely ever gets any substantial exercise, but still looks fine– which for me requires a fair bit of thinking about what I eat and working out a few times a week. Oh, it’s fine that some people are genetically “built” to be able to eat whatever they want, as much as they want, be lazy but still maintain a normal weight– but as soon as it’s suggested that there are also those “built” to be heavy no matter what they eat or how much they work out, an angry mob turns up shrilling “no, it’s all their fault, fatties are bad people!” And they’re arguing with scientists, no less, who have specialised in their field and carefully analysed their data to produce their conclusions. That isn’t good enough, though, for Average Joe Expert, who thinks that because he’s in the average weight range that he should have an honourary doctorate in biology. It really says something about the culture; “What do the ‘experts’ know? I know better than that nerd because I have an anecdote, a loud voice, and I feel very strongly about my opinion!”

That’s not to say that the brunt of the “obesity epidemic” isn’t behavioural, the result of bad choices and overindulgence and poor self-discipline. We’re surrounded with cheap, unhealthy food, and far too many are wrecking their bodies– and worse, passing along their unhealthy lifestyles to their kids– by not thinking seriously about their nutrition and being unnaturally sedentary. But the whole point of this article was that *some* people have a built-in disadvantage whereby their bodies don’t work within ‘average’ baselines. Just as surely as some of us have lousy eyesight– we can’t ‘will’ ourselves to see better. But there’s no finger-wagging at short people for being short, or near-sighted people being near-sighted. While everyone accepts that some traits are inborn and that– for instance– it’s “great” that some people can live however they want and still look fantastic, some of you convince yourselves that because so many people *get* fat as a result of their behaviour no one could possibly ‘be’ fat if not by their own choices, and that it follows that everyone who “chooses” to be fat is somehow bad or at least inferior to you. It’s ignorant and it reeks of holier-than-thou smugness. Smarten up.

On another note, seriously, how many of the people responding to this article even finished high school English? Holy Hell, people, even if you can’t punctuate to save your lives, at least consult a spell checker. It’s hard to take seriously any opinion that’s so poorly communicated. Personally I’m more concerned by the illiteracy epidemic; at least the heredity spread of obesity can mediated by the sheer mechanical challenges of sex, but average-sized, uneducated people can breed like rabbits with comparative ease.

30. TMyul - June 9, 2008

60 years ago, obesity was present in the human race, but not at epidemic proportions. I believe the fat and thin people here both have valid arguments. It is unfair to regroup everyone into 2 groups.

However, we in North America seem to have developped an oversized conception of what we should eat per day as well we have developped an-under active lifestyle. 60 years ago, people “worked an honest days work” that did not involve pointing a mouse or banging on a keyboard.

I think there are factors to be given to genetics, since the beginning of time, there has always been fat people. But what this study does not properly address is the technological revolution we have undergone in the past few decades and the impact it has on our lives.

Nowadays, if someone walks 4 or 5 km a day, they are considered an athelete, back when our parents were young, they were just considered someone who got to where they needed to go. Our car and fast food epedemic needs to be addressed in this study.

I don’t think the fat or the thin people replying should over generalize about either side, more research needs to be done… but its not all about genetically fat or genetically thin. Some people are just luckier than others I guess. Some people have to study harder to pull of a C while others do nothing to get an A. Its called life and we have to deal with the cards we are dealt!

31. hdog - June 10, 2008

i dont matter how fat or skinny u r in the end we al gunna keel ova and die so get ova it u sad sad peple haahah

32. angie - June 14, 2008

you know what? you people need to grow up. why is everything based on someone’s weight? we all breathe the same air, we all bleed the same color and we all have feelings. instead of ridiculing these people wouldn’t it be better to give encouragement and ideas that might help to lose weight instead of telling them to quit eating? it’s a known fact that you will starve to death without food no matter how big or how small you are. so my idea is that each person needs to find their ideal calorie count for the day and stick to it without starving yourself and you’ll lose weight. metabolisms are different so diets are different for each individual. it’s working for me.

33. Megan Campbell Wesley - June 14, 2008

Why do you people post these comments like your all some type of better than the other?im not fat but im not skinny and i will pop one of my mama’s baked potatoes in my mouth any time of any day! shouldnt matter if youre fat or skinny you are all people and youre all worth something! And to all of the skinny people who think theyre better than you,… keep in mind that if it werent for the bigger people of the world,.. they wouldnt know what skinny is.You are beautiful no matter what the tag says! :)

34. cyn - June 15, 2008

Do any of the people that write this stuff every check the spelling and their use of words before posting this?? Go back to school. And yes, I’m fat. It’s hard to loose it once you get big. But that doesn’t mean people should make fun of anybody. What’s with the world. Everybody needs to mind their own business. We are people,too. I don’t think I would put my picture on the internet. That just seems wrong for a lot of reasons. Some people were just meant to be heavy and some skinny and some in between. Life goes on. And please, people, proof-read your comments. I can’t take someone seriously when they can’t spell or put commas in the right place.

35. get a grip people - June 23, 2008

1. Eat healthy
2. Eat the right amount
3. Excercise

If your still fat, deal with it. Don’t starve yourself trying to be skinny. Your just wasting your time. Enjoy life while you can!

Oh, and stop eating at McDonalds. IT IS JUST PLAIN GROSS!!!

36. Beth - August 2, 2008

Why do people keep talking about McDonalds like it’s all overweight people eat?!
I’m overweight but it’s not because I eat too much it’s because i have Juvenile Idiopathic Arthritis and i was put on steroids when i was 11 to help me walk again as i could hardly move!
I hate the fact people presume that I’m overweight because i eat too much! The truth is i swim, go to the gym and walk a few miles regularly every week and i eat a healthy diet.
It’s not possible with my Arthritis to lose the weight because of my medication and the obvious implications of pain with exercise so will you all at least stop putting everyone who is even the slightest bit overweight in a group labelled “EATS TOO MUCH” because as you can see that’s not always the case!
Sure I would love to be a bit skinnier.. I’m not that overweight but I do understand where everyone on this is coming from but some of you people need to get a grip cus if you carry on with these views in life you are going to need to get a reality check!
Do me a favour and don’t judge before you’ve listened!
Thanks
x


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